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Fred,<BR>
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Yes the fainter galaxy is N-3896...I listed both as N-3893. I am looking at my sketch of both of these galaxies of which I observed on April 20th 1993.<BR>
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NGC-3893: I did note the bright star on the on the SW tip. The central area does have greater concentration, but some sources say stellar nucleus, but I was not able to see this during my observation. The core is very uneven, possibly mottling would be a better description. The outer halo is relatively smooth, and the overall shape appears very irregular. I can see an extension going toward the bright star...which places the nucleus or core in an offset position as related to the outer halo. <BR>
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NGC-3896: Only a faint glow...but could hold steady without averted vision. There is a faint 13th magnitude star on the north side of this galaxy that I sketched. The galaxy has very little concentration with no center brightness noted.<BR>
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NGC-188: Very faint and difficult in my 10-inch. I can see a faint sprinkling of stars but with extreme difficulty. Only the brighter members are visible...of which are few. Jim Mullaney said that the cluster appears much fainter than the published 8.1 magnitude and also said that it was extremely difficult even in a 10-inch scope. <BR>
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My notes on October 12th 1996 indicates that low magnification works best due to the low surface brightness. <BR>
December 2nd 1996: Located with 57x with some brighter 11th mag field stars surrounding the cluster. Mostly an unresolved haze with a very few brighter members being resolved. At high x the cluster seems to vanish. <BR>
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N-188: Brian Skiff reported seeing this cluster in a 6 cm refractor and described it as a moderately faint patch among several mag 8-10 field stars. He mentioned that it is inconspicuous in a 12-inch scope. <BR>
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NGC-7044: Date 9-30-94; A sprinkling of very faint stars. Too faint and dim to see at 57x. Some resolution of stars at 250x. I spent over 2 hours on this object. Averted vision is required and there is a brighter star on the North edge with the overall shape being somewhat elongated. An interesting and unique object. Very much different from the average "faint" OC. Very little to describe. <BR>
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NGC 891: I have over 15 observations of this particular galaxy. If transparency and seeing are less than perfect it can be "extremely" difficult. Your description was very good. Summarizing my notes: Very low surface brightness, almost translucent...as if you can see through the galaxy. Slight concentration in the central region, but very moderate. Very elongated with a size of 12 x 1 arc minutes. It can be located approximately 25 arc minutes NW of a brighter field star which is 6.5 magnitude. It has a 12th magnitude star embedded in the central region and also some faint 13 mag stars off the SE, and another faint star right on the southern tip. <BR>
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N_891: I just came in from observing (time 11:00 EST). I had another difficult night seeing this "ghostly" galaxy. It was extremely faint with no concentration at all. The transparency was poor tonight. It took me over an hour to "finally" see it. Averted vision and medium power worked best. I could see it best using a 12 mm UO Konig as compared to using a Vixen 20 mm LV with a 3-element Celestron Ultima barlow. My description was a very faint slash and only visible with averted vision. Extremely low surface brightness. I did see a few very superimposed stars. <BR>
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From: rayworth1969@hotmail.com<BR>To: lvas@lvlug.org<BR>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:38:37 -0600<BR>Subject: Re: [Lvas] FW: Simple sketches<BR><BR>
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Roger,<BR> <BR>As for NGC-3893, I observed it on 29 Apr 1998 and 11 Aug 2007. "Faint and round with a bright or relatively bright star at one edge. Seemed to have a companion or an attachment (NGC-3896)." The second time it was just a "faint round ball," but I didn't mention NGC-3896.<BR> <BR>I haven't seen NGC-0188 yet.<BR><BR>As for NGC-7044, I saw it on 04 Oct 1997. "Not much. About twenty stars. Hard to tell from the background."<BR> <BR>As for NGC-0891, I saw it on 28 Sep 1992, and 16 October, 1993. "Extremely faint! Found it by star hopping. Saw a very faint oblong smudge with averted vision. Could not see at all when looking straight on. Jiggling scope made it more apparent." Then "Elongated uneven oval. Faint."<BR> <BR>Since I live in Las Vegas, there is no way I can see much of anything, especially when the local high school has their football field lights on, which is pretty much every weekend. However, I don't mind getting away from town, though as gas prices rise, it tend to take fewer risks on iffy nights!<BR> <BR>Fred<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR><BR>
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<BR>From: drivester@hotmail.com<BR>To: lvas@lvlug.org<BR>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:01:41 +0000<BR>Subject: [Lvas] FW: Simple sketches<BR><BR>
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Fred,<BR> <BR>Please see the attachments of my "humble back deck" observatory. You may think it odd that a wooden deck that is connected to my house would be a stable platform. It is well built and supported and has no movement whatsoever for visual observing....it amazes me also. I can walk out the back door and start observing the entire northern sky from about -20° south with a complete view to the north. My house faces south with the deck being on the north side. <BR> <BR>Observing last night was great but the temperature was pretty cool as the low last night was 12° but the wind was perfectly calm which allowed me to stay relatively comfortable.<BR> <BR>I have streetlights in relative close proximity but the thick heavy duty fabric shields my two worse. I am fortunate that I can observe without setting foot on the ground. For the southern sky I have to travel to one of our many dark sites...all of which are less than 30 minutes away. When I have to come into the house I put on my red astro-goggles which work very well. <BR> <BR>I actually have a sketch of a 14th magnitude galaxy from my backyard using my 10-inch. The galaxy is NGC 3893 located in Ursa Major which is a companion to brighter galaxy NGC 3893. Do you have any notes on this object?<BR> <BR>Would you share your notes on NGC 188 an open cluster which is 4° south of polaris? What about a H-400 object OC NGC 7044 in Cygnus. I find this to be an extremely difficult object to observe..<BR> <BR>Last night NGC 891 was almost invisible through my 10-inch. <BR> <BR>The short pedestal on my DS-10 works perfect for sitting and sketching as I find it impossible to stand and observe much less try to sketch. Note my LVAS decal on the pedestal post.<BR> <BR>Thanks, Roger <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<BR><BR>From: rayworth1969@hotmail.com<BR>To: lvas@lvlug.org<BR>Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:44:46 -0600<BR>Subject: Re: [Lvas] Simple sketches<BR><BR>
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Roger,<BR> <BR>Wow! You are a mighty fine artist. My drawings can hardly be classified as doodles, let alone anything like what you do.<BR> <BR>Fred<BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<BR><BR><BR>From: drivester@hotmail.com<BR>To: lvas@lvlug.org<BR>Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:28:53 +0000<BR>Subject: [Lvas] Simple sketches<BR><BR>
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I use a white charcoal pencil on black cardstock, and for many years I used a No. 2 pencil on white paper. I have been fortunate to accumulate over a thousand sketches.<BR> <BR>Roger<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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